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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:18 pm    Post subject: Schonell Spelling Test Reply with quote

I've been trying to find the Schonell Spelling Test words. Ended up on RRF website where they gave the words and instructions for spelling test B.
Does that mean there is a spelling test A somewhere?

If so, does that mean you should alternate which set of words you give when testing to monitor progress? And can anyone let me have the Test A words please?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

we used the same one all the time, i think, where the words are graded in difficulty to read, then to spell the same ones, allow up to 10 errors then stop, as far as i can remember

tested at the start and end of the year

also tested on NFER reading tests in September

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We only have one set of words as well. But on the test procedure sheet that I downloaded from Reading Reform Foundation it says that the pupil should write at the top of the paper Test A or B. And the list of printed words from the same site is headed Test B.

So sounds as though there is a Test A out there somewhere.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

there is a Schonell book, spiral bound, with various tests in it

maybe you could ask our mutual 'friend' to have a look at the one they have, we only had one copy, and used to use that or photocopy as necessary

i will ask at work too when i go back, as we seem to have lots of different things hidden away in various places

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is slightly of topic but maybe of some use at some stage.

We haven't used the Schonell tests for a number of years now as it was seen to be outdated and over used.

We now use theNelson Single Word Spelling Tests, there is a different test from Y2 onwards. It gives SA, Percentile Rank and S/S and an progress score between tests. It is linked to National Literacy Strategy. By diagnosing the test results/answers, you can set up a target list for individual pupils.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's interesting Tiki, thanks. We have only been tracking pupil progress closely since September. Before it was just by NFER and Running Records. We opted for Burt Reading and Schonell spelling simply because they were the two recommended on Debbie Heppelthwaite's Reading Reform Foundation website.
Always willing to try something else though.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi DQ, yes I could save myself time and ask our SpLD advisor. It's all very strange, the SENCO doesn't like to bother her unless we are absolutely certain a pupil has a severe problem. When our friend comes to assess she always says not to worry if we are unsure, best to refer them just incase.

We recently had a girl reach year 4, considered just to be slow learner. When assessed she has every aspect of dyslexia, Myres-Irlen etc etc. She was taught by SENCO in year 1 and nothing was done for her.

I have been in trouble a couple of times with HT for booking appointments with the expert (and not consulting SENCO), but every one of them has been found to have a SpLD. Mind you this is the same HT that has taken on for level 2 experienced TA post someone that has never done paid work in a school before, just the level 2 course.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a A list and B list as far as I know, just like for the reading test, if you want me to look when I go back to work (not back until Thurs) let me know. We only have a couple of level 2 TA's and they are all very experienced?!?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes please star-9.
Interesting you only have a couple of level 2s and they are very experienced. We have been a school full of level 1s for years, now level 2 seems to be the minimum.
I know it's sour grapes on my part but I have worked really hard to get to level 3. I do lots of extra courses, SEN, mental health, behaviour,dyslexia etc etc. When I got upgraded it made sense that all the effort was recognised. But now the level 1s have been promoted to 2 anyway, there is very little status or paywise between us.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will try to remember! We don't have many general class ta's, most of us are 1:1 with statemented children and as such are graded as level 1. One class ta is also level 1 and the other 3 (nursery nurse and two delivering interventions) are level 2. This is in a school with 250-260 on the role.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried (along with another TA) to find the test yesterday but we were unable to locate it, sorry! Will keep an eye out for it.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for trying, star-9. Might have a look on e-bay in the meantime.

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