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clucky
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i did CS today!
Totally unprepared untill i arrived at 8 and then got told i was doing it!
And oh boy was it hard.
I was in my own yr 1 class so know all the children.
Oh yeah guess what because our school 'doesn't' use CS i won't be paid! Mad
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What lessons did you have to teach?

No warning is a bit bad !

I spent a large ammount of last school year teaching year 1 cos the teacher wasn't capable !!

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure its right not to pay you. Won't that create a possible insurance nightmare if you aren't being paid at the right level?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mak a fuss clucky that is out of order...who told you..the HT or senco?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teaching special people tomorrow in RE to year 3 need ideas for what makes a person special. Who are specail people in the parish [catholic school], in the country and in the world.
Also vikings need to give a timeline worksheet with dates, writing and pictures all mixed up how do I explain how to reorganize it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about -for the R.E- draw circles (inside each other)on the board and on the inside one put parents/relatives - next friends - teachers and so on gradually working outwards - nuns/priests - pope. ?? Children to give own ideas. Did something similar a while back.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that will try it and see how it goes.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dizzydolly wrote:
Also vikings need to give a timeline worksheet with dates, writing and pictures all mixed up how do I explain how to reorganize it.


Are the children familiar / practised with timelines? If not set up a very basic example that you can work through as a class to demonstrate the principle of a chronological series of events (i.e. a day).

Draw a simple timeline on the board, involve the class in labelling, title, start date, increments & closing date, choose half a dozen things for the example... getting up, going to school, having lunch, going home, having tea, going to bed... list randomly on the board, and re-organise with the class...

Repeat with a blank timeline for the vikings, go through the events the children have on their worksheets, explain you need to find the things that happened first, happened last and where on the timeline everything else would have happened... give a suggestion how they might do this, ask for a couple of suggestions from the class.

i.e. if this is my 'day' timeline...
08:00..........................................08.30....................................09.00
Get up....................................Go to School...........................>etc

Where would eat breakfast be on the line? Closer to getting up, to going to school, in the middle?

Give the children a couple of minutes to discuss the material on their worksheets with their neighbour to decide what happened first... (listen to what they're saying so you can pick on a pair who get it right Smile)... then pick pairs to voice their opinions... go from there.

Gee that sounds really rambly, perhaps I shoulda tried this when awake properly.

Hope it helps anyhows.

D.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers D will let you know how it goes
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Re went really well but had to abandon viking timeline as it was too difficult and ran out of time
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a cover supervisor.

I cover in Year 1 on Tuesday pm when the teacher is out doing PPA and all day Thursdays.

I really enjoy it, the planning is always there and all i have to do is deliver it and mark the books at the end, no worries Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you work in year 1 normally cos when I agreed to do cover supervision I thought it would only be in my class so when I was told I would be covering a different class in a different key stage I was very surprised. As I have only ever worked in year 1 for 18 months and 3 mornings in year 4 for 12 weeks. Think I will ask for more experience in key stage 2 if this is gonna be a regular occurrence. We have a new head and she had agreed for 3 teachers in key stage 2 to go on courses and the 4th teacher has PPA friday afternoon so no teacher was in key stage 2 at all. All 4 classes run by TAs.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before this new school year i was covering up to yr 3. So somedays i would come in the staffroom and look in my tray and find a note asking if i could cover a certain class. Now i just cover year one but i'm sure if a few teachers were out and they had no one to do it they would ask me. Currently we are thinking about having set ppl as cover supervisors, so they would be called when needed, not sure how that is all gonna work tho.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I work in a high school in Cardiff and in my experience the classes I have seen being taken by Cover Supervisors leave a lot to be desired. Maybe through no fault of their own because (as already mentioned) they are not actually allowed to teach but only - as the name suggests - "supervise" a class and give out the work that has been left behind by the subject teacher. This though, is where the whole thing falls down.....in my experience, the work that has been left behind has not been work at all, but things like wordsearches and crossword puzzles! I'm talking here about year 8 and 9 classes in science lessons!

One day last week, one of the year 9 classes were actually left some "copying" work for them to do ( that I think is an actual cop out and boring for the kids to do.) All the cover supervisor lessons I have been involved in as a TA for those classes, in my opinion have been a complete and utter waste of time. I can understand why some of the teachers leave this type of unchallenging "work" for the cover supervisor to hand out as lots of our kids, at the best of times don't work anyway when the subject teacher is actually there teaching! The kids idea of coming to a lesson, is to do the bare minum, if at all any work at all! So it is no surprise that when they are faced with a lesson with either a cover supervisor or indeed a supply teacher, they pull out all the stops and act out even more! Especially when they see that all they have prepared for them is some hastily thrown together wordsearch sheets. The few brighter and conciencious pupils in the class actually find this very difficult to deal with as it is not challenging enough and they find themselves whizzing through the papers, whilst all around them chaos and general mishbehaving is going on - as the rest of the pupils are either refusing to do the "boring work" or running around the lab chasing each other about.

I really dispare when I see these kind of lessons and think that on the whole, both cover supervision lessons and supply teacher lessons are a complete and utter waste of time. The whole education system needs a good swift kick up the backside and review these so called "lessons" that are obviously not working and ultimately letting our children down so badly!

Anyone else out there experienced such lessons with particularly involving cover supervisor and or supply teachers?

There, Rant and rave over for now!

Over to you now!

Ciao!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a TA with NVQ3. I have 'taken' classes in dire emergency situations (teacher fainting, snow making half of staff late in). or for the odd half hour now and again. I do not cover or take classes on a regular basis. I will agree to do that when the system is overhauled and the anomaly is addressed between what a TA gets paid for the responsibility of taking a whole class and, in lots of cases planning in their own time, and what the school is saving on supply cover.
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